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User Name Remember Me? Find all posts by ashfaque. Mike O'Pray. Thanks for the link Ashfaque. For anyone who decides to look at it I'll just say that it is a little over 30 mins long and covers more than f stop printing. I'd be interested in what others think of: 1.
How well the title of the video reflects the video's content 2. What other viewers believe Gene Nocon to be saying about what can be achieved with the Cecil Beaton print done in PS as compared to the darkroom 3. What others think Gene is saying about the future of analogue printing 4.
What others think he is saying about flashing with VC paper I am trying to be as neutral as possible in asking these questions so as not to prejudice others' conclusions Mike.
RH Designs. What I'd like to know is why people who routinely and happily expose film using the f-stop method think the same techniques applied to paper are somehow difficult or obscure.
Find all posts by RH Designs. I managed 5mins before I got bored. I went to a party Saturday and took two rolls of film that I developed last night ,and I am going in to my darkroom today to print them up ,that's what its all about ,what ever way you want to do it its up to you ,but as long as you are happy with the finished print that is all that matters.. Martin Reed. Haven't watched much of it yet, but Gene seemed to have mellowed a bit with age. The timer was an interesting piece of kit, but anyone who got one usually found they needed to invest in another to cannibalise for the keys which failed regularly.
That seems to have gone the way of all digits, although I think I've got one episode on VHS somewhere. Amazon UK list about 10 copies at. But thankfully he ended strong and on the right note. I've used his pre-flasher for around 2 years, and find it extremely useful.
Then fine-tune the normal way. Having seen at least some comments I'll give mine now in relation to the questions I had asked. He seemed to be saying that had PS been around when the original Beaton print was made then it would have been used in preference to the darkroom as it would have produced a much better print.
This is fair enough but then towards the end he seemed to regret the passing of darkroom art in a kind of end of a Golden era scenario and blames current photography teachers for the darkroom's demise He just seemed to be facing both ways at the same time.
I just couldn't work out where he stood. On pre-flashing he seemed to be suggesting that with VC paper it was no longer possible which is news to me but by that stage I was wondering if I was hearing what he was actually saying. I felt that only Jeremy Paxman, formerly of Newsnight, might have been the only one capable of pinning him down I got the clear impression that f stop printing was not the real reason for the video.
It was simply a form of "hook" to get you viewing. It was poorly explained and neither the interviewer nor Gene had any real interest in giving a proper explanation. If I had never heard of it before then I would not have become a convert based on that video. I read his book on the subject of printing and found it OK.
Maybe he is better when writing that when talking. I have had better returns elsewhere than I got for investing 33 mins of my time in the video Mike. Thanks for posting. The film is, however, a bit long for its content. I took up f-stop printing when Darkroom User produced a chart which is still up in my darkroom.
I have used pre-flashing occasionally and with Multigrade paper where there was a very wide overall tonal range but not in the finer detail and found it useful. Whether it I could have done it without is a moot point. David Brown. Originally Posted by RH Designs. Find all posts by David Brown. F-stop printing isn't. The video made no attempt to explain the f-stop printing methodolgy. If there was detail in the highlights in the negative then it must have been. Would digital have made it better?
Maybe but getting the neg exposure and dev correct in the first place would make making a wet print easy enough so where does that leave the digital aspect. It may be good for rescuing some bad negatives. He seemed to be saying that digital is the best thing since sliced bread but at the same time saying wet printing was real photography.
It makes good business sense. But what the hell, each unto his own and if he wants, thinks digital is better for his clients then so be it. I would point out that the video was made quite a long time ago when people were still wasting their time arguing whether digital was any good.
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A tribute to a dear friend, business associate and genius in both analogue and digital photography. Gene Nocon, buddy, brother, friend and life long working partner to my photographic career deserves at least this page in my work. Meeting him shortly after graduating photographic college, privileged to be 'best man' at his wedding to Liz and to have spent the hours, days and months, years in the darkroom and then light room, as he called his digital career, was a privilege. His mastery and operation as a photographic genius was unsurpassed. Prints we created together were each and every one a masterpiece, through dint of his genius and expertise. As he once quoted, the true founder of photography must be the person who impressed the negative onto a durable captured surface.
Your saved articles can be found here. Join now to start saving articles today. His popularity and zeal for photography led to his own television series, Nocon on Photography , made for Thames Television. Another of his books, Photographic Printing , which describes the f-stop method of printing, became a bible for the black-and-white printing industry. The f-stop method is also the basis for his invention of the Nocon photographic timer distributed and sold by Calumet. His appreciation for new technology led him to explore new concepts. Subscription Notification.